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Jun 6, 2013 12:18 PM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Shit, now I feel terrible for ever thinking bad about Bert. He's so caring, even with Reiner the way he is. Bert confirmed for best Shingeki. ;_;7

Ymir gets better and better with every chapter. <3

Dat ending.
Jun 6, 2013 12:35 PM
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Stall chapter, didn't learn anything. Why is Christa so important?
Jun 6, 2013 12:48 PM
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Hairy titan confirmed as final boss? It seems like he isn't the real enemy though.
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Jun 6, 2013 2:12 PM
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The rough translation script of chapter 46:



Will remove it if posting it breaks the rules.

It's getting more twisted. Not that Isayama would spit it out in a chapter - I am somewhat happy that the things continued in this chapter - no flashbacks, other lines followed.

So, Ape is dat factor of doom to humans. Kind of expected, because he represents the "original" titans. Reiner and Bert want to go back to their origins and can alter memory as Eren loses them? Also, Christa, w/e, it becomes a bit annoying to converge all salvation to her w/o saying a damn word or doing anything to help humankind (/rant). How much worse the situation could get, meh. O.o
Jun 6, 2013 8:23 PM
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Agree on all reply above. this chapter is making me more confusing... @@"
PS: Count down one month start from now again.. cry T.T
I hope next chapter will at least tell us something important ><"
Jun 6, 2013 9:30 PM
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Can't read Japanese.
Can't read Spanish.
I suck. OTL

Eren was totally freaking out about his Arms not growing back. I would have too. O_O
💕
Jun 6, 2013 9:50 PM
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Conspiracy chapter. Wondering again why Bert and Reiner want to go back to their hometown.
What is waiting for them? And Bert and Reiner seem strong enough. But still the world is hopeless?

Announcement at last page
Short anime DVD [Side Story: Ilse's Notebook] was postponed. It will come with volume 12 in December.
kusushiJun 6, 2013 9:56 PM
Jun 6, 2013 10:15 PM
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I saw the raws last night and something keeps bugging me. Christa has some sort of humanizing (or pacifying) effect on human-titans (or at least to some of their kind).
Grisha however changed the fate of his son (until stated otherwise, I'll consider Eren human before the first attack) to a human-titan. Which is what - the opposite?
And it seems like Ymir and Reiner's convo is about discussing these two options. In which Christa is more on the long-term (Historia) engagement (how old are they anyway?!).

I also wonder about the Ape. Titans can live w/o munching humans (they kill them though on sense and sight). If the Ape didn't know about the 3DMG, what does it mean - Ape's kingdom is far off (yet titans have been lurking around the Walls for 100 years?) or something stirred (or un-woke) the unknown titans such they attack/recon humans again. Like Phase 2 or something.
Jun 6, 2013 11:40 PM
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Murders. Bloody murders is what Eren calls them huh. Am I surprised? No.

This face of Eren says it all:
Jun 6, 2013 11:46 PM

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It's pretty interesting. Evidently, they 'became humans' but had no choice but to take action afterwards, so now they're in the deep end. I'm curious what exactly happened or is going on with their hometown that is making them do this.

Dat Ymir though, I enjoy that she is on no one's team. It seems like so long as Christa's safe, she'll gladly join enemy hands. The part that kind of confuses me is that Ymir was one of the titans that supposedly 'attacked' their village, right? I mean, it showed it all as a flashback, or was that whole thing fake to make us believe in these two even more so?
Touch me, you filthy casual~
Jun 6, 2013 11:48 PM

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Let the conspiracy theories commence.
Jun 6, 2013 11:52 PM
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antonn said:
Let the conspiracy theories commence.


They've been running rampant for the past month now lmfao

But anyways, how much of a plot twist would it be if they somehow persuaded Eren to come join their side?
Jun 7, 2013 12:06 AM

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Stark700 said:

This face of Eren says it all:


^This.

I expected at least some good info who they really are but wtf, I got nothing.
Jun 7, 2013 12:08 AM

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BackLashWave said:
antonn said:
Let the conspiracy theories commence.


They've been running rampant for the past month now lmfao

But anyways, how much of a plot twist would it be if they somehow persuaded Eren to come join their side?

I'm aware.
Jun 7, 2013 12:10 AM

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Stall chapter, didn't learn anything. Why is Christa so important?

She's related to the wall in some way.
Jun 7, 2013 12:18 AM

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Who's the enemy :@ !!!?
Jun 7, 2013 12:19 AM

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Well damn, Christa's so loved.

What I liked in this chapter is Reiner's psychological break down and Bert feeling pity. They're not stone hearted after all. Isayama may have given us some character development in this chapter but it's very frustrating that everything is stilll a mystery. Now to wait for the next chapter in despair... Tsk.
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Smooched said:
Stall chapter, didn't learn anything. Why is Christa so important?
Because important plot device, wall maria, and saving humanity will be the key to her memory
Jun 7, 2013 12:46 AM
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What ever happened to the "BASEMENT"
Jun 7, 2013 12:50 AM

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This Titan xD

we need answers..
1. Monkey titan?
2. Christa?
3. Reiner's/bert's goals?
4. Ymir's too?
5. the basement?
6. the enemy?
7. the titans inside the walls?
Jun 7, 2013 12:55 AM

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BlackWings101 said:
Smooched said:
Stall chapter, didn't learn anything. Why is Christa so important?
Because important plot device, wall maria, and saving humanity will be the key to her memory

Walls worshiped as Gods
Wall Maria
Maria - Another form of Mary
Christa - Female version of Christ
Christa - Often referred to as a goddess

The walls immaculately conceived & gave birth to Christa. Dun dun dunnnnn.
Jun 7, 2013 12:59 AM

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This Titan xD

we need answers..
1. Monkey titan?
2. Christa?
3. Reiner's/bert's goals?
4. Ymir's too?
5. the basement?
6. the enemy?
7. the titans inside the walls?
You forgot to mention: Saving our sleeping princess, Annie from the dreaded humans?
Jun 7, 2013 1:11 AM

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Now more questions are raised for me. Was hoping some really delicious information in this chapter, but I feel really teased as Reiner interrupts Ymir to tell who the enemy is, but later keeps it as a secret in the end of the chapter.

Those two deviant titans that were following Reiner and the rest felt interesting, they were literally following every move they did as they somehow was interested to it, and the one hiding felt as if it had some "human" traits to it. I don't know, I mightb e over analyzing this, but we've know how Isayama puts these small hints throughout his chapter in SnK. So keep your eyes out I guess.

Also these promotions that Reiner kept talking about was interesting to hear from him, its like they were on a mission, and if they succeeded they would be rewarded with something special I would think. A great power? Higher status? Who knows, some really interesting stuff I would say.

Bertholdt has always been a very quiet person, and for him to feel pity for Eren just shows his character isn't as bad as he is, but something greater occupied his mind when he and Reiner attack Wall Maria at the very beginning. And also that Reiner has taken a liking to Christa\Historia and bargains with Ymir to not tell who the enemy is to Eren. Damn it, again.

Also not sure if it was shown until now, but it looks like Eren can't be transforming to his Titan form while his power is still regenerating his limbs, same with Ymir. That's some interest to this "Titan Power" at least.

When it comes to Eren wanting to know more of this Monkey Titan and this hidden "village" that Reiner keeps on about. We're all on the same boat, hopefully we'll know more about this thing in the next upcoming chapters, hopefully by October please~

I have a feeling that this arc will be centered about this village, Christa and the Monkey Titan. Which should be really good and interesting. Now for another month or two of agony of waiting for a new chapter. At least we have this epic anime going atm. ^^
Jun 7, 2013 1:16 AM

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vansonbee said:
OnePieceQ8 said:
This Titan xD

we need answers..
1. Monkey titan?
2. Christa?
3. Reiner's/bert's goals?
4. Ymir's too?
5. the basement?
6. the enemy?
7. the titans inside the walls?
You forgot to mention: Saving our sleeping princess, Annie from the dreaded humans?

oh!! how did i forget that..
you're right.. 8. Annie's crystal?
Jun 7, 2013 1:48 AM

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I'm expecting answers by reading this chapter...

What do I get?

More questions. ^_^

This manga is awesome. ^_^
Jun 7, 2013 1:54 AM

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Agreed just added More Questions about everything XD Hopefully next chapter we can get some Answers XD
Jun 7, 2013 2:56 AM
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Are some of you people seriously feeling pity for Bertholdt? Just because he felt sorry for Eren's loss? Are you kidding me? That monster willingly destroyed the wall, fully aware of what consequences it would have for humanity. Where was his pity then? He's a ruthless murderer and like Eren said, deserves his death to be excruciating as possible.
Reiner is turning more and more into a nutcase. He's obviously reaching the stage of being called a schizo and totally losing it. Wouldn't be surprised if he goes completely mad somewhere down the line.
Ymir seemed like she was on Eren's side this whole chapter but eventually all it took was the mention of Christa's name to persuade her to join the enemy's side. If I were in Eren's shoes right now, I'd feel seriously pissed, being betrayed by his only ally in that misery and having to sit there with the two persons who caused humankind's demise. Keeping his emotions locked in that particular situation is impressive given that it's Eren we're talking about.

All in all the chapter didn't really answer anything and just caused even more question marks to appear. I can't say that I like such chapters, especially since the manga is published monthly.
The release of atomic energy has not created a new problem. It has merely made more urgent the necessity of solving an existing one. - Albert Einstein
Jun 7, 2013 3:45 AM

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Which means we really do have titan factions.

I also remember Bertholdt saying to Eren (in the training camp) that he envies him for having a will of his own (at that very same time that Bert says he also sorry now). Even so and so, death would be a mercy for those two - whoever and however they are governed or manipulated by.

So, other titans attack human-titans sensing the human in them (just a recap). Human-titans perhaps need to sustain their human needs like having water, food, and sleep, in order to keep their "performance" as titans stable (regeneration has priority over strength and drive to heal the human part) [unlike the other titans. Yet, those others can be kept active during the night :L].
Ah, we have now stalker-titans :)

Good to squeeze something from this chapter, if anything.

And I thought that Ymir finally makes more sense and use. Suddenly I felt like bitch-slapping again.
Jun 7, 2013 4:07 AM

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Truly a stall chapter, I like that eren's determination is still strong. They need to hurry up and tell us that Eren's dad is the monkey titan lol
Jun 7, 2013 4:08 AM

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Chapter really confusing , i wonder if reiner and bert has some contact with erens father , and why did ymir know something that eren didnt , who is the hairy one and why is the hometown of reiner and bert so important ?=
Jun 7, 2013 4:30 AM

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Eren...u so screwed XD

But I really want to know the truth >_<
Jun 7, 2013 5:17 AM

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So this is Eren's idea about controlling his emotions...Why am i not surprised?
Jun 7, 2013 5:18 AM
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Damn Reiner dicking around with his half assed mentality and manipulations. Ymir has always been on the run from entire world and only thing she wants is to protect the one person she loves - and Reiner goes and pretty much blackmails her to side with them. Fucker. And Berthold is one creep m*therf*ucker!

Loved Eren's reaction.
Jun 7, 2013 5:34 AM

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Eren: "I'm gonna control my emotions and try to gather intel."

. . . 5 seconds later . . .

Eren: "DON'T F**K WITH ME YOU F**KING MURDERERS."
Jun 7, 2013 5:40 AM

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redd530 said:
Eren: "I'm gonna control my emotions and try to gather intel."

. . . 5 seconds later . . .

Eren: "DON'T F**K WITH ME YOU F**KING MURDERERS."


He didn't like their answers :P
Jun 7, 2013 6:22 AM

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Darklight0303 said:
redd530 said:
Eren: "I'm gonna control my emotions and try to gather intel."

. . . 5 seconds later . . .

Eren: "DON'T F**K WITH ME YOU F**KING MURDERERS."


He didn't like their answers :P


Well, I'm gonna give Eren some cookies cause he managed to hold back this much.
Jun 7, 2013 6:33 AM
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redd530 said:
Eren: "I'm gonna control my emotions and try to gather intel."

. . . 5 seconds later . . .

Eren: "DON'T F**K WITH ME YOU F**KING MURDERERS."

Normally he'd turn into a titan immediately and charge at his opponents. So...it's a start I guess?
The release of atomic energy has not created a new problem. It has merely made more urgent the necessity of solving an existing one. - Albert Einstein
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Smooched said:
Stall chapter, didn't learn anything. Why is Christa so important?
Because important plot device, wall maria, and saving humanity will be the key to her memory


So basically, "Save Christa, save the world"? Hmm, that line felt familiar.


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Jun 7, 2013 7:17 AM

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This fucking guy, i laughed incredibly hard with a mix in anger right when he said that.

Even if he is incredibly delusional right now, i felt like someone should have punched him in the face right there.

redd530 said:
Eren: "I'm gonna control my emotions and try to gather intel."

. . . 5 seconds later . . .

Eren: "DON'T F**K WITH ME YOU F**KING MURDERERS."


To be fair he's actually being quite calm about it, considering how he usually is, he'd probably have gone crazy and transformed again. And don't forget the one who basically killed his mother is right in front of his face while the other one goes... well, just check the image above.
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The dialogue was incredibly well done, Reiner totally lost it.
Jun 7, 2013 7:39 AM

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The circumstances play a part, Eren told Bertholdt the incident, someone who was repsonsible for his mother's death. It was also precisely the way Bertholdt said it that pissed Eren off. Eren isn't concerned about himself, 'pitying him' does nothing. It was his mother that was killed.

Reiner falls in line with many rather weak-willed people who cannot bear the weight of their actions. If they are looking for the way home, they were planted as spies since young. Duty as a soldier but gets confuse by issues like morality after interacting with people there. His reaction is quite normal to me.

That said, I love this chapter. It is what makes Shingeki no Kyojin interesting to me.
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AkoBudoy07 said:
BlackWings101 said:
Smooched said:
Stall chapter, didn't learn anything. Why is Christa so important?
Because important plot device, wall maria, and saving humanity will be the key to her memory


So basically, "Save Christa, save the world"? Hmm, that line felt familiar.
Christa could totally be a cheerleader.
Jun 7, 2013 8:22 AM

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so much shit to be answered, godamn
Jun 7, 2013 8:55 AM

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uck, I can't read it, this is a dialogue only chapter. URGH.
"Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys
Jun 7, 2013 9:00 AM

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the amount of questions is increasing with every chapter.
gosh..
講廢話,被撞到.
Jun 7, 2013 9:01 AM

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Wow. Do they(Reiner and Bertholdt) really not get why Eren was mad at them?

What the fuck was their justification??

Gotta weight for the translations

EDIT:

AHHHH! WHAT THE FUCK!???

First of all, why did the Colossal and Armored Titans even kidnap Eren!? His power is infinitely inferior, so what did they need him, or even Ymir for that fact, for?

Second, why does everyone love Christa? This is ridiculous, reiner even went on a rant for a short while about how Christa might be into him, the fuck? Of course Eren got mad. He was responsible for killing much of humanity, and specifically, destroying his life.

I don't understand why neither side, Ymir or Reiner, are talking. Why do either of them refuse to explain to Eren?

People are sympathizing with Bert? You have to be FUCKING KIDDING ME. Eren described exactly what he is, a MASS MURDERER. And we don't even know WHY they are doing that, because they REFUSE TO EXPLAIN IT TO EREN!!!! Why. Why do they refuse to explain the situation to someone who they want compliance of??

I don't even know what to think of anymore, what's going to happen next?

STALL CHAPTER
GodlyKyonJun 7, 2013 9:23 AM
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We didn't get any answers this chapter but the conversation between Reiner, Eren and Ymir was interesting.

And Bert's line ''I felt pity for you'' in Eren's question about his mom...Yes, you did.I can see it in your eyes.

And new questions again.
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GodlyKyon said:
Wow. Do they(Reiner and Bertholdt) really not get why Eren was mad at them?

What the fuck was their justification??

Gotta weight for the translations

EDIT:

AHHHH! WHAT THE FUCK!???

First of all, why did the Colossal and Armored Titans even kidnap Eren!? His power is infinitely inferior, so what did they need him, or even Ymir for that fact, for?

Second, why does everyone love Christa? This is ridiculous, reiner even went on a rant for a short while about how Christa might be into him, the fuck? Of course Eren got mad. He was responsible for killing much of humanity, and specifically, destroying his life.

I don't understand why neither side, Ymir or Reiner, are talking. Why do either of them refuse to explain to Eren?

People are sympathizing with Bert? You have to be FUCKING KIDDING ME. Eren described exactly what he is, a MASS MURDERER. And we don't even know WHY they are doing that, because they REFUSE TO EXPLAIN IT TO EREN!!!! Why. Why do they refuse to explain the situation to someone who they want compliance of??

I don't even know what to think of anymore, what's going to happen next?

STALL CHAPTER



- It might be that the Titan power is very very rare.

- Cause Christa is a goddamned Goddess.

- Cause I think they're still wary of Eren, seeing on how much he wants to kill em all. Would you state your plans to someone who you're not even sure if he's gonna join you yet?

- It is implied that Annie, Ryner and Bertholdt is feeling guilty of the weight of their actions, but to them, getting back to their hometown is a priority.
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- It is implied that Annie, Ryner and Bertholdt is feeling guilty of the weight of their actions, but to them, getting back to their hometown is a priority.

Ooh those poor things! Someone should hug them tightly and snap their fucking necks while at it. You just reminded me that Annie killed one of my favourite teams back in the forest and then decided to hide inside a crystal like a coward.
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Well we didn't get anything from this month, too bad :C.
The art hasn't improved either.
Only more questions~

ps: Going to the basement wasn't a priority (?!) D:
They get shocked and discuss when they found about another infiltrate titan instead of going straight to the basement to get the answers and then something happen...
Eren didn't tell anyone about the key (?)
I might forgot some stuff but i think he did :1...
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